Thursday, July 11, 2013

Middle Ages Vatican condemns New Age American Nuns: The Celestine Prophecy come true! Sisters in Crisis book mocks LCWR Sisters in Christ

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Below we cite an excerpt from the book The Celestine Prophecy that describes what is going on before our eyes in the USA today - between the Medieval Vatican and its obsolete doctrines and irrelevant dogmas - and the New Age American nuns who have evolved with the American people.  The Machiavellian strategy of all male despots and male autocrats including and specially the Vatican is to suppress, kill, mock, banish or silence their members who disobey or disagree with their totalitarian obsolete decrees because these members consequently and effectively expose their monarchical deceits and crimes.  With its Dark Ages doctrines, the Middle Ages Vatican is fearful of the New Age American nuns who are more in numbers than the dying breed of Catholic priests because these nuns have first-hand influence on the populace while the Vatican and its princes of Bishops and Cardinals are far-flung in Rome or are living in the lap of luxury in their Episcopalian palaces out-of-touch with reality away from its people.  So the way they control these nuns is by final condemnations, destructions of their reputations and excommunication or banishments - exactly as the Celestine Prophecy describes. 

Archbishop J. Peter Sartain behaves like dictatorial Cardinal Sebastian (in the Celestine Prophecy) who collaborated with the government army to destroy the ancient scrolls, assassinate the archeologists and the interpreters of the ancient Celestine Prophecy manuscripts, burn down the research centres.  We won’t give it away, read the insightful and enlightening book and then watch the movie.  The book explains what the book in general demonstrates.  Argo producer /actor Ben Affleck should have learned from the integrity and honesty of the writer James Redfield and the producers and directors of the movie.  According to Redfield, all the actors went to him, because no agency could order actors who have had a spiritual experience of their own; listen to the segment “The Making of the Movie of the Celestine Prophecy”.  But then, by “lying” about the true history of the main event of the escape in Argo, Ben Affleck raked in more money than the Celestine Prophecy, which proves that “lying pays in Hollywood” and it also pays for the Vatican to keep lying about the superman powers to clone Christ capabilities of popes and priests”, indeed, Hollywood and the Vatican are the twin cities that “lie for a living”,

The book The Celestine Prophecy sums up prophetically what is going on between the Middle Ages Vatican and the New Age American nuns.  Archbishop J. Peter Sartain, Pope Francis, the Vatican, all priests and nuns, every Catholic, and the whole world should read this book because it is as its front page says, “The Manual for the Third Millennium”.  We copy some important paragraphs here, painstakingly - in honor of the good nuns who have served the American people – who are unlike the out-of-touch with reality autocratic Popes, Cardinals and Bishops.

Excerpts from The Celestine Prophecy happening before our eyes especially the Middle Ages Vatican attacking the New Age American nuns:  

“It’s not enough for me to tell you about it.  Remember what I said before: to understand history, you must grasp how your everyday view of the world developed, how it was created by the reality of the people who lived before you.  It took a thousand years to evolve the modern way of looking at things, and to really understand where you are today, you must take yourself back to the year 1000 and then move forward through the entire millennium experientially, as though you actually lived through the who period yourself in a single lifetime.”

“How do I do that?”

“I’ll guide you through it.”

I hesitated for a moment, glancing out the window at the land formations far below.  Time was already beginning to feel different.

“I’ll try”, I said finally.

“Okay,” he replied, “imagine yourself being alive in the year one thousand, in what we have called Middle Ages.  The first thing you must understand is that the reality of this time is being defined by the powerful churchmen of the Christian church.  Because of their position, these men hold great influence over the minds of the populace.  And the world these churchmen describe is real is, above all, spiritual. They are creating reality which places their idea about God’s plan for mankind at the very center of life.

“Visualize this,” he continued.  “You find yourself in the class of your father – essentially peasant or aristocrat – and you know that you will always be confined to this class.  But regardless of which class you’re in, or the particular work that you do, you soon realize that social position is secondary to the spiritual reality of life as defined by the churchmen.

“Life is about passing a spiritual test, you discover.  The churchmen explain that God has placed mankind at the center of his universe, surrounded by the entire cosmos, for one solitary purpose:  to win or lose salvation.  And in this trial you must correctly choose between two opposing forces: the force of God and the lurking temptations of the devil.

“But understand that you don’t face this contest alone,” he continued.  “In fact, as a mere individual you aren’t qualified to determine your status in this regard.  This is the province of the churchmen; they are there to interpret the scriptures and to tell you every step of the way whether you are in accordance with God or whether you are being duped by Satan. If you follow their instructions, you are assured that a rewarding afterlife will follow.  But if you fail to heed the course they prescribe, then well…there is excommunication and certain damnation.”

Dobson looked at me intensely.  “The manuscript says that the important thing to understand here is that every aspect of the Medieval world is defined in other-worldly terms.  All the phenomena of life – from the chance thunderstorm or earthquake to the success of crops or the death of a loved one – is defined either as the will of God or as the malice of the Devil.  There is no concept of weather or geological forces or horticulture or disease.  All that comes later.  For now, you completely believe the churchmen; the world you take for granted operates solely by spiritual means.”

He stopped talking and looked at me.  “Are you there?”

“Yes, I can see that reality.”

“Well, imagine that reality now beginning to break down.”

“What do you mean?”

“The Medieval world view, your world view, begins to fall apart in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries.  First, you notice certain improprieties on the part of the churchmen themselves:  secretly violating their vows of chastity, for example, or taking gratuities to look the other way when governmental officials violate scriptural laws.

“These improprieties alarm you because these churchmen hold themselves to be the only connection between yourself and God.  Remember they are the only interpreters of scriptures, the sole arbitrators of your salvation.

“Suddenly you are in the midst of outright rebellion. A group led by Martin Luther is calling for a complete break from papal Christianity.  The churchmen are corrupt, they say, demanding an end to the churchmen’s reign over the minds of people. New churches are being formed based on the idea that each person should be able to have access to the scriptures personally and to interpret them as they wish, with no middlemen.

“As you watch in disbelief, the rebellion succeeds.  The churchmen begin to lose.  For centuries these men defined reality, and now, before your eyes, they are losing their credibility.  Consequently, the whole world is being thrown into question.  The clear consensus about the nature of the universe and about humankind’s purpose here, based as it was on the churchmen’s description is collapsing – leaving you and all the other humans in western culture in a very precarious place.

“After all, you have grown accustomed to having an authority in your life to define reality, and without that external direction you feel confused and lost.  If the churchmen’s description of reality and the reason for human existence is wrong, you ask, then what is right?”

He paused for a moment. “Do you see the impact of this collapse on the people of that day?”
“I suppose it was somewhat unsettling,” I said.

“To say the least,” he replied.  “There was a tremendous upheaval.  The old world view was being challenged everywhere.  In fact, by the 1600s, astronomers had proved beyond a doubt that the sun and stars did not revolve around the Earth as maintained by the church. Clearly the Earth was only one small planet orbiting a minor sun in a galaxy that contained billions of such stars.”

He leaned toward me.  “This is important.  Mankind has lost its place at the center of God’s universe.  See the effect this had?  Now, when you watch the weather, or plants growing, or someone suddenly die, what you feel is an anxious bafflement.  In the past, you might have said that God was responsible, or the devil. 

 But as the medieval world view breaks down, that certainty goes with it.  All the things you took for granted now need new definition, especially the nature of God and your relationship with God.

“With that awareness”, he went on, “the Modern Age begins.  There is a growing democratic spirit and a mass distrust of papal and royal authority.  Definitions of the universe based on speculation or scriptural faith are no longer automatically accepted. ..In spite of the loss of certainty, we didn’t want to risk some new group controlling our reality as the churchmen had.  If you had been there you would have participated in the creation of a new mandate for science.”
“A what?”

He laughed.  “You would have looked out on this vast undefined universe and you would have thought, as did the thinkers of that day, that we needed a method of consensus-building, a way to systematically explore this new world of ours.  And you would have called this new way of discovering reality the scientific method, which is nothing more than testing an idea about how the universe works, arriving afterward at some conclusion, and then offering this conclusion to others to see if they agree…(Pages 22 to 25, The Celestine Prophecy)

The American nuns have evolved with the masses of people and with the universe …while the Dark Ages Vatican want to stick to their royal powers in the Middle Ages which just don’t work anymore in this Modern Age.  Royal families are getting extinct and but have lost their powers, look all over Europe, they are nothing but ceremonial figures and everyday there is clamor from taxpayers that they no longer want to support their royal lavish lifestyles and are calling for their annulment all together.  It is time the United Nations annul the membership of the Vatican, read our related article


But Christ has had enough with the Vatican and the Popes who have misused and abused his Name to control the poor even no through the secret Vatican Swiss Banks.  And the Vatican finally got its greatest Jesuit deceiver, read our related article Pope Francis


Read our related article: 

Vatican attacks American nuns: A compilation. USA nuns live Gospel, serve the poor and sick...while Benedict XVI lives in luxury out-of-touch-with-reality in Vatican Bank Tower

Hypocrite Benedict silenced Fr. Tony Flannery, Brian D'Arcy – A compilation… but he does not silence Cardinal Bernard Law and JP2 Army – John Paul II Pedophile Priests



Sisters in Crisis book condemns American nuns who are the real Sisters in Christ while those JP2 Army John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army are the brothers-of-the-Devil who will all rot in Hell with John Paul II with the largest millstones tied around their necks, read here the John Paul II Millstone 

After we exposed a new female Vatican Pied Piper, Anne Lastman, read about her here Anne Lastman the false witness to “the limping Christ towards Calvary”… she camouflages John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army, another female Vatican Pied Piper is famously rising, (another Ann) Ann Carey and her book, Sisters in Crisis, (1997, republished in 2013 by Ignatius Press, remember Ignatius and the Jesuits, Masters of Deceits, read our article here Goliath Bill Donohue, Catholic League, Bishop Myers’ tactics to suppress freedom of speech in the USA

 Sisters in Crisis is being hailed with the top reviews by other members of the Vatican Deceits Pied Piper Media Empire like Catholic Culture praising her to the highest heaven: “Ann Carey knows the real story, the complete story, and she tells it extraordinarily well”.   Read the reviews below with added emphases and highlights on how Vatican Pied Pipers condemn the American nuns with typical deceiving words like: rebellious, far-left, disobedient, radical, far-left, etc... 

FEMALE Vatican Pied Pipers

Female counterparts of Goliath Bill Donohue, Catholic League, Bishop Myers’ tactics to suppress freedom of speech in the USA

LCWR Assembly: Little Evidence of Willingness to Comply with Reforms
Christian Newswire
Catholic Religious Women continue claim to the right to 'faithful dissent' and their own understandings of faith, ecclesial authority and religious obedience, says expert.

Contact: Lisa Wheeler, Carmel Communications, 770-591-0045,

SAN FRANCISCO, Aug. 20, 2013 /Christian Newswire/ -- The annual assembly of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious took place August 13-16 in Orlando, Fla. The main topic of the meeting was how to respond to a mandate of reform of the organization issued by the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) on April 17, 2012. That mandate directed Archbishop J. Peter Sartain of Seattle to accomplish in five years: a revision of the LCWR's statutes; review and reform of LCWR plans and programs; creation of LCWR programs to help member congregations deeper formation in Church doctrine; review and application of liturgical norms and texts; and review of LCWR links with the affiliated organizations Network and Resource Center for Religious Institutes.

Archbishop Sartain met in closed session with the entire membership to discuss the CDF assessment and to answer questions. An LCWR press release issued at the end of that three-day meeting said: "Although we remain uncertain as to how our work with the bishop delegates will proceed, we maintain hope that continued conversations of this depth will lead to a resolution of this situation that maintains the integrity of the LCWR and is healthy for the whole church."

Ann Carey, considered by many to be the foremost expert on women religious, and whose book, SISTERS IN CRISIS REVISITED, spends an entire chapter reporting on the CDF doctrinal assessment of the LCWR, and includes for readers the actual Vatican document as an Appendix, had this reaction:


LCWR 2013... Another FEMALE Vatican Pied Piper

National Catholic Register (publication that belongs to the disgraced Legion of Christ, read about them here - Theology and John Paul II are heartless and together they made the immoral Fr. Marcial Maciel thrive... and they also made complicit Cardinal Bernard Law thrive, read our related article here

LCWR 2013 Assembly: Little Evidence Yet of Any Reforms
NEWS ANALYSIS: More than a year after the Vatican mandated changes, the U.S. women religious leaders’ group appears uninterested in complying.

by ANN CAREY (Another FEMALE Vatican Pied Piper like Ann Lastman, read about her here Australia JP2 Army! Anne Lastman the false witness to “the limping Christ towards Calvary”… she camouflages John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army

When the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) met in its annual assembly Aug. 13-16 in Orlando, Fla., the main topic of business was how the sisters would respond to a 2012 mandate of reform from the Vatican Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF). The LCWR is a canonically erected superiors’ organization of nearly 1,400 sisters who are leaders of about 80% of the women religious in this country.
Interest in their 2013 assembly was heightened by the presence of the Vatican’s apostolic delegate charged with conducting the reform, Archbishop J. Peter Sartain of Seattle. He had offered to attend the LCWR 2012 assembly to discuss the mandate that had come out April 18 of that year, but had been told then by LCWR leaders that his presence “would not be helpful.”
This year, Archbishop Sartain addressed the entire membership in a closed session and fielded questions about the mandate from LCWR members. He also met with the LCWR’s 21-member national board during the first of three days of board meetings after the assembly closed.
However, the only decision announced by LCWR in an Aug. 19 press release was simply to continue talking with Archbishop Sartain and Bishops Thomas Paprocki of Springfield, Ill., and Leonard Blair of Toledo, Ohio, who the Vatican appointed to assist him.

Rebellious nuns remain rebellious   (A Vatican Pied Piper condemning the nuns)

Orlando Sentinel

Jeff Kunerth
August 19, 2013

Leadership Conference of Women Religious concluded their meeting in Orlando Monday no less defiant of the Vatican.
The LCWR, which represents about 43,000 American nuns, has been criticized by the Vatican for deviating from Catholic doctrine, including its positions on gays, women in the ministry, and the gender of God, who is sometimes referred to as "she."
The sisters, who represent about 43,000 American nuns, met several times with a representative from the Vatican during their convention in Orlando. Archbishop J. Peter Sartain was given five years in 2012 to bring the nuns in line with the strict teachings of the church.
On Monday, the LCWR issued a statement that said, "The session with Archbishop Sartain allowed a profound and honest sharing of views...The extraordinarily rich and deeply reverent conversation during the board meeting gave us a greater understanding of Archbishop Sartain, and we believe he now also better understands us..."
Standing on My Head
August 27, 2013 By Fr. Dwight Longenecker (This is a Vatican Pied Piper priest, he was an Anglican, he was married, and now he is a Catholic Priest – busy condemning nuns – watch his venomous vocabulary against nuns – he has practically “excommunicated” the nuns  - his words are in bold and highlighted)

A new edition of Ann Carey’s book gives an update on the crisis in women’s religious orders in the USA. This professionally researched and meticulous book will remain a historical resource for all those who wish to understand how in the space of forty years an army of faithful Catholic sisters ended up as new age, politically correct drones of the left.

Carey explores the problems in the religious orders before the Second Vatican Council and takes the readers step by step through the half baked, ill thought out “renewal” in the religious life that took place after the council. She chronicles the biased propaganda disguised as ‘surveys’, charts the disastrous results of group therapy sessions and the open rebellion of the sisters against first their own rules of life, then the authority of the church and then against the Christian faith itself so that some of them are now not only in favor of same sex marriage, abortion and champions of a range of left wing projects, but they moved “beyond Christ.”

So at the LCWR (Leadership Conference of Women Religious) Conference in 2007 Sister Laurie Brink observed that many of the religious orders are “no longer ecclesiastical”– having “grown beyond the bounds of institutional religion” these congregations have become “post Christian”. Not worried about this development, she goes on to say, “who’s to say the movement beyond Christ is not, in reality, a movement to the very heart of God?”
Ann Carey quotes extensively from the women religious themselves. She documents their papers, their speeches, press reports and includes personal witness, interviews and first hand memories. The result is devastating, and the consequences are obvious. The once thriving women’s religious orders who did so much excellent work in schools, parishes and hospitals are now practically non existent. When’s the last time you saw a nun and knew she was a nun?

Coincidentally, I also came across the prophecies of Mother Mariana de Jesus Torres–an Ecuadorean nun from the seventeenth century who predicted widespread rebellion and apostasy within the religious orders which would take place just after the middle of the twentieth century. She also predicted terrible, Widespread corruption and immorality, specifically the corruption of children and the decadence of Catholic priests.

One of the things that struck me in reading Ann Carey’s book was the passive-aggressive nature of progressives. The truth is the liberal sisters were full of rage against the Catholic authorities. They were (and are) revolutionaries who are determined to overturn what they see as a misogynistic, hierarchical, oppressive regime. They truly see themselves as radical campaigners–freedom fighters who are standing with the poor and needy and oppressed for peace and justice. Well okay. That’s fine, but they wage their aggressive campaign with the lies of false victimhood, the blackmail of wounded feelings, the manipulation of methods and the sneaky techniques of sentimentality.

So on the one hand they are busy pumping out propaganda, manipulating elections, bullying the sisters who won’t go along with their radical agenda, engineering back room deals, playing cat and mouse with the Vatican, delaying judgement through endless “dialogue” and politicking for power–then when the patience of the authorities runs out they cry big crocodile tears–”What you are doing is sooo divisive! We are so hurt! We are wounded! We have deep concerns!” They put out their bottom lips in a little pout and turn on the tears for sympathy. Suddenly they are the wounded ones, the victims who are being persecuted by big Daddy.

We get this self righteous crap from progressives all the time. They manipulate, scheme, blackmail and indoctrinate and then when someone calls them on it they play the victim card with a big, sad look on their face, “How can you be soo hurtful to a person like me who is only trying to help???”

This is why Ann Carey’s book is such a treasure. It’s measured. It’s documented. It is not a polemic, but a solid historical study of the disaster in Catholic women’s orders in the USA. Furthermore, her study of the women’s orders is valid reflection of the condition of the whole Catholic Church in the USA. Just as there are now two conferences of superiors of women’s religious orders–one she calls ‘change oriented’ and the other ‘traditional’ so there are two Catholic churches in America–one that is actually in a state of constant, understated dissent from Catholic teaching and the other which lines up behind the magisterium, the Sacred Scriptures and the Holy Father.

Take your pick.

Sisters in Crisis: The Definitive Guide (what guide??? This book is the Vatican Deceits Pied Piper FEMALE messenger being reviewed by a male pied piper)
Sisters in Crisis: The Definitive Guide
By Dr. Jeff Mirus
August 27, 2013

Among the more important books released by Ignatius Press recently is an updated edition of Ann Carey’s Sisters in Crisis. Originally published in 1997, the initial study closed before the more dramatic efforts of the Vatican to reform women religious in the United States. The new 2013 edition, Sisters in Crisis Revisited: From Unraveling to Reform and Renewal, brings the chronicle up to date, including the Apostolic Visitation of Women Religious and the response to it, and the investigation of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR).  (Read about the deceptive St. Ignatius here
Carey’s work is no mere overview. It does not simply summarize the conclusions reached long ago by knowledgeable Catholic insiders. The author has done both comprehensive and meticulous research into the patterns of religious life in the United States between about 1950 and the present, enumerating the stresses and strains caused both by explosive growth in the mid-20th century and by the revolutionary secularization of religious culture as the century wore on. The reader gains a clear idea of why the Vatican was talking about the renewal of religious life even before the Second Vatican Council, why that renewal was very slow to be undertaken, and how a spirit of rebellion and dissolution overtook many religious communities after the Council, during the last third of the century.
Sisters in Crisis is divided into three parts. The first, “Post-Vatican II Sisters: Ready for Renewal or Revolution?”, portrays the state of religious life at the close of Vatican II. The second, “How Did All of This Happen”, explores the progressive indoctrination of women religious, the rise to dominance of those in rebellion against the Church, the first efforts of the Vatican to redirect this process through the spectacularly unsuccessful Quinn Commission in the 1980s, and the ultimate ideological transformation of mainstream religious leadership organizations. The third, “Where Do Sisters Go from Here?”, explores the triple crisis of contemporary female religious life in America (vocations, finances and the elderly), the apostolic visitation, and the doctrinal assessment of the LCWR—the text of which is included in an appendix.
Carey draws from primary sources, secondary sources and interviews to formulate her comprehensive account, which runs to some 400 pages, fully-footnoted, along with a five-page bibliography and a 22-page index. Certainly the issues are momentous; the prose is smooth and well-organized; the book is neither dull nor difficult to read. But make no mistake: This is the definitive account. It will remain an important reference on American religious life for generations to come.
A juxtaposition of passages from earlier and later portions of the book will serve to illustrate the importance of the theme. First, religious life at the time of the Council:
…change was resisted by most women’s orders, which continued to follow practices needing reform. For example, in many orders, even in the early 1960s, sisters were required monthly to ask their superiors for permission to perform routine tasks such as bathing, obtaining toothpaste and soap, doing assigned work, and even praying. Some sisters needed permission for normal adult activities such as using the telephone, even when doing so was an implicit part of their job. Behind this practice of requesting permission was an interpretation of the vow of obedience in which everyday activities didn’t have merit unless they were done as acts of obedience. Thus, all actions, even daily routines that every adult must perform, came under the authority of the superior. (p. 30)
After this, some religious communities eventually began the long process of renewal called for by the Council and by subsequent popes. Carey identifies these groups as following a “traditional” model. But a great many institutes flew off on an immense tangent of feminism and Modernism. Sadly, this won them the praise of the world while putting them at odds with the Catholic Faith and causing their numbers to plummet as dramatically as has ever been seen in history. Carey, who deliberately avoids unattractive labels, calls these groups “change-oriented”. Thus:
…the institutes of women religious that carried experimentation and renewal to extremes that were neither intended nor authorized by the Second Vatican Council are in decline. Statistics show that these change-oriented institutes have lost a greater percentage of their membership than the traditional institutes, for their average age is in the seventies. In these institutes, the lifestyle of the sisters evolved to a point at which it became impossible to distinguish sisters from their lay professional counterparts…. A myriad of problems have arisen in aging orders, including retirement funding, building maintenance, and even decisions about continuing the existence of the institute. Still, as these problems escalated in the twenty-first century, many leaders of women religious continued to be more willing to accept the inevitable demise of their institutes than to admit that they had made mistakes. (p. 325)
In between these two snapshots, an overworked and under-appreciated workforce of women religious lost nearly 75% of their numbers overall, including a whopping 96% of sisters who taught in schools. The path through this sweeping destruction was marked by countless horror stories, deliberate indoctrination in modern ideologies, a crushing loss of faith, and direct defiance of ecclesiastical authority.
And yet there is great hope for the institutes which, whether early or late, have followed the authentic path of renewal, and for new institutes founded upon the principles of renewal the Church has set forth. Almost uniformly, their vocations are growing rapidly. Their apostolates are, once again, expanding into the world.
It is all thoroughly chronicled and explained in this remarkable book. If you want to delve more deeply into the history of the life of women religious in the United States over the past sixty years, do not be deceived by propaganda from any other source. Ann Carey knows the real story, the complete story, and she tells it extraordinarily well.


Hierarchy's Mary is vastly different from ours  (GOOD ARTICLE BY A NUN)

National Catholic Reporter
Joan Chittister | Aug. 30, 2013 From Where I Stand
One of the major scientific discoveries of the 20th century revolves around the role played by communication in stressful situations -- the notion that a person's communication style can soften or harden conflict depending on how it is used; the idea that simply the amount of information supplied in crucial situations affect the tone, the efficacy and the outcome of negotiations. As a result of those findings, whole corporations have changed their processes of decision-making and dissemination of information.

So with that in mind, people waited for information about the progress of the Vatican visitation of the LCWR from this year's gathering in Orlando, Fla. Given the fact that none was forthcoming, people drew their own conclusions.

I, on the other hand, went for the one piece of data the assembly managed to produce on the subject, the homily Sartain gave to the membership. And a clear piece of communication it was.

In this homily, Mary is "quiet," "docile," submits herself over and has no "desire or a need to figure things out ... or resolve them to her own personal satisfaction." There was, we're told here, no "no" or "mine" in her. The Mary of this homily is a passive receptacle of what she understands to be the Word of God.

Well, maybe. But it might be good to think about all that a bit in the light of the other things we also know about Mary. ...

For instance, Mary answers the angel's declaration to her by questioning it. An angel! Someone of much higher rank, it would seem, than even apostolic delegates, and only then with a "Be-it-done-unto-me" response to a situation to which, apparently, "no" was a viable answer. Otherwise, why bother to have the conversation?

Even more important, perhaps, is the awareness that despite the seriousness -- even the danger -- of her situation, Mary did not go to any man -- to the high priests of the temple, the local rabbi, her father or even Joseph -- for directions about what to do next. She went to another woman for the wisdom she needed and followed that instead. No visitations here.

In another instance, at the wedding feast at Cana, Mary gives her own set of apostolic orders to no less than Jesus himself as well as to the wait staff, as in, "Go and do what he tells you."

Mary herself questioned the propriety of what Jesus was doing in the temple with the elders and later is part of a crowd of family and friends who are even concerned that Jesus may be, as the Irish would say, "losing the run of himself."

And finally, if anyone wants to know just how influential and important a figure Mary was to the development of the early church, the very idea of her being part of the gathering of apostles on Pentecost when each of them is anointed into discipleship by the Holy Spirit ought to be enough to dispel the notion that what we have here is a woman without a strong sense of self.

No, the Mary not mentioned in this homily on the Assumption was a woman not intimidated into the Incarnation, not beholden to male answers, not shy about giving directions about what should be done, not without a high sense of personal responsibility, and not one bit in doubt about her place in the hierarchy of the church.

Those, I think, are precisely the qualities we see in women in our own time that make for what some parts of the church are now calling "radical feminism."

From where I stand, that is a sad misuse of language and an even sadder case of spiritual blindness.


LCWR meets with Vatican overseer under lock, with guards

National Catholic Reporter
Joshua J. McElwee | Aug. 15, 2013 NCR Today
ORLANDO, FLA. The archbishop given expansive oversight by the Vatican of U.S. Catholic sisters met Thursday here with some 825 of their representatives, speaking for about 40 minutes in a closed-door session held under lock and key.
Seattle Archbishop J. Peter Sartain was meeting with members of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), over whom the Vatican has placed the prelate as “archbishop delegate” and given wide power to revise statutes and programs.
The meeting was the first between Sartain and the full membership of the sisters group since the Vatican’s Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith gave him his authority in April 2012.
Standing outside the assembly hall where Sartain was speaking, the prelate’s voice could be heard faintly for about 37 minutes. Afterwards, there was about a minute of clapping before voices of individual sisters could be heard intermittently until a scheduled break 90 minutes into the meeting.
LCWR members have been asked by the group’s leaders not to discuss Thursday’s meetings with members of the press. Additionally, the doors into the convention hall where Sartain was speaking were locked with uniformed guards placed near them to prevent unauthorized entry. ...
“Even our IT [information technology] conferences are not this secure,” said Kimberly Ritter, a meeting planner at St. Louis-based Nix Conference and Meeting Management.
One of the approximately eight security guards posted at the doors to the event said he was with a local security firm that was contracted specifically for Sartain’s talk.

Vatican and LCWR dialogue is put to the test  (Another Vatican Pied Piper condemning the nuns)

Vatican Insider
A Holy See representative is to meet with members of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR)
The new climate of dialogue and trust which has settled in the Vatican since Francis arrival seems to have spread to the U.S., to the point of healing the split between the LCWR’s nuns and U.S. bishops, which had been worsening in recent years.
The Vatican appointed a commissioner to oversee the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) in April 2012, when Benedict XVI was still Pope, after the nuns were accused “radical feminism” and of failing to obey church teaching on matters such as the possible ordination of women priests and contraception. Rome’s decision was met with indignation by a majority of faithful but was also supported by the more conservative sectors of U.S. Catholicism which have always accused the nuns of not contributing enough to the cultural battles against abortion and same-sex marriage. These issues have been top priorities for U.S. bishops in terms of public commitments.
During their annual assembly held in Orlando, Florida between 13 and 16 August, the LCWR extended an olive branch to the Archbishop of Seattle, J. Peter Sartain - the Vatican-appointed commissioner who was given the task of overseeing the group’s reform -, inviting him to speak at their meeting. The prelate promptly accepted the invitation and attended three closed-door meetings, the content of which was closely examined during the group’s plenary assembly. He also participated in a three-day meeting with the heads of the LCWR.


And Opus Dei million dollar houses of their priests and “numeraries” equivalent to nuns and religious brothers

“Holiness” is not measured by the holy prayers a person recites because Christ condemned those Holy Priests Pharisees precisely because they recited the most holy prayers from the Bible and He called them white washed sepulchres, read here
“It is acts of mercy” that I desire, God said in the Bible, and “not material or animal holocaust”.   Christ got angry at those merchants selling those holy lambs for sacrifice in the Temple of Solomon, today that would be Holy Mass Tourism, read here  
Read about the impotent Zeus statue of St. Joseph who overlooked 50 years of sodomy in College Notre Dame here, BOYCOTT Oratory of St.Joseph

The “Holy Father“ Pope and his copy-cat “holy fathers”  Catholic priests cannot clone Dolly the sheep and therefore they cannot clone Christ either, read our related article, OC Diocese buys Crystal Cathedral as flesh-factory of Christ... for wealthy God-flesh-eating Catholics
Well, the black magic holy words of a team of “holy priests” cannot clone Christ the Son God either, read about the Divine Trinity
Please take a look at the worse Roman Catholic Church pedophile priests attacks against more than 15,500 Americans … compared to the September 11, 2001 attacks against 3,000 Americans at the Twin Towers in New York. 
Victims in USA - Attackers - Responsible Leaders

Pearl Harbor - 3,000 victims - 170 planes - Admiral Yamamoto

WTC & 9/11 attacks - 3,000 victims - 19 Muslims - Osama bin Laden

Priest pedophilia - 15,736 victims - 6,000 pedophile priests covered-up John Paul II, Benedict XVI Ratzinger, Opus Dei = Vatican Trinity (together with Cardinals, Bishops and Vicars worldwide)
9/11 victims 3,000. JP2 Army 100,000s. May Day: both Hitler and bin Laden Announced Dead on May 1 on John Paul II Beatification Day B-Day   

Look deeply into this image of Our Lady of Guadalupe defending and protecting children from the Serpent  ... compared to Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Cardinals, Bishops who coverd-up pedophile priests The names of the transferring or covering up Bishops and Cardinals are: Roll Call Please!
The Hague: Full text Criminal Charges against Dr. Joseph Ratzinger, Pope of the Roman Catholic Church
The black belt means she is pregnant
The womb of the Immaculate Conception of Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe carried Jesus this way


 The cloning process that produced Dolly


1-MINUTE  black magic of the cloning of Christ by sinful Vatican pope and priests
Our comment: Transubstantiation or the Mass is a recent development . St. Peter and St. Paul and the Apostles never celebrated Mass and never “transubstantiation” the bread into the flesh of Christ, what they did was to preach about Christ. The Mass was a slow development from the 12th century through various liturgical reforms until the 20th century. It was only in 1215 at the Fourth Council of the Lateran that the Mass began to take form and in 1551 at the Council of Trent that transubstantiation became what it is today. The Vatican has come to use it as its main crux of power on earth deceiving Catholics and peoples of all faiths that only Popes and men-priests have the exclusive power to transubstantiate God’s flesh. Because of the Mass, the Vatican has gotten away with all kinds of heinous crimes, e.g. the Crusades, the Inquisition, the burning of women and witches “For the sake of the Eucharist” and because of the shortage of priests, John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger-Benedict XVI, the Opus Dei who controls the Vatican, the Cardinals and Bishops shuffled pedophile priests from one parish to another. The rest is history: the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army committed Holy ES Eucharist-and-Sodomy of Biblical proportions see the John Paul II Millstone
In the name of Hail Mary, we dare challenge and defy the Magisterium: No words pronounced by any finite-man can create an infinite-God! No words of the Pope and priests can re-create or re-incarnate Christ’s flesh. The words of sinful popes and priests are powerless and can never create God! Only Mary the Immaculate Conception deserved to bear God in her womb. No evil pope and evil priests is worthy to touch and hold God in their evil hands. The words of popes and Cardinals, Bishops and priests are mere clashing-cymbals of St. Paul see John Paul II the Great clashing cymbal of St. Paul

See Benedict XVI to beatify John Paul II is “brought to nothing” by St. Paul
No matter how we look at it, finite-man cannot create an infinite-God. Man can never create God’s flesh. Not in in-vitro fertilization of the scientific laboratories. Not in the sacred altars of holy Roman Catholic churches which by the way were the same pedophile altars of the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army See the John Paul II Millstone
Rome, call us heretics and we don’t care because in Boston and in America, we have freedom of speech. It was our freedom of speech that got rid of criminal-Cardinal Bernard Law and sent him packing out of our sight and out of our land. But only you, Rome, you the Roman Catholic Church a.k.a. Magisterium would glorify criminals like Cardinal Bernard Law and John Paul II. No other American state has been able to replicate our courage as Bostonians who got rid of the first Cardinal caught guilty of the John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army in America. Yes, we caught the first SS officer of the Third Reich of the Roman Catholic Church … but he went into glorious exile in Rome because only in the Catholic Church are criminals glorified See The John Paul II Millstone John Paul II Pedophile Priests Army expands into Ireland &John Paul is elevated as "Venerable"... only in the Catholic Church are criminals glorified
Benedict XVI, from the Chair of Peter, thinks his papal letter will heal the victims and solve the problem of clergy abuse in Ireland. The fact is, Benedict XVI’s words are powerless.  Pope Francis  words cannot reincarnate Jesus Christ in the Eucharist -- it is the biggest Vatican HOAX!!!  NO POPE has ever healed anyone. As this picture shows,

They came sick and they left sick.

There is NO "Apostolic" authority or succession here,

for NO Pope has EVER been able to heal like Peter or Paul did.

Opus Dei Goliath-bully Bill want to propagate Catholic Medieval Doctrine that all crimes of JP2 Army of pedophile priests are already forgiven and forgotten under the Sacrament of Confession that protects criminals and persecutes their victims, read here

 CSC Holy Cross Congregation delay $18 million compensation payout. Brother Andre & Saint JOSEPH giant GOLDEN COW STATUES could not help victims of CSC pedophiles

People, please STOP DONATING to the ORATORY and STOP LIGHTING CANDLES to St. Joseph and instead donate your money to Red Cross, Doctors without Borders, your local charities, and the homeless shelters of Montreal. God will listen more to your prayers in your acts of charity because they are better than material candles and money you give to the wealthy billionaire CSC religious Holy Cross family of Saint Brother Andre. If you were to face Christ on Judgement Day today, He will not ask you how many candles you have lit at the Oratory of St. Joseph, but how many poor people you have helped, as He has said, “Whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren, that you have also done to Me.”

  ZEUS GIANT SAINT JOSEPH did NOTHING to stop pedophile priests of the Congregation de Sainte-Croix happening right before his very eyes for 50 years

If you live in Los Angeles, or elsewhere in the USA or in the world, and are planning a “pilgrimage” to the Oratory of St. Joseph or flying to the Vatican, DON'T GO and instead DONATE that pilgrimage money to the Red Cross or your local charity - or sponsor a poor student and pay for his or her school supplies and school lunch for a year, or feed a homeless person for a year at McDonald's,  instead of flying to Montreal to see the Oratory or the Vatican Mammon Beast - and God will listen more to your prayers in your act of mercy rather feeding the Vatican Mammon Beast or St. Joseph Oratory Mammon Beast copying the Vatican Titanic sinking in moral bankruptcy.

Children are better sex educated reading the Los Angles files rather than wasting their time to attend the wizardry of the Mass where priests ceaselessly reiterate those old horrid stories of extinct people in the Bible, read here the Immoral Bible 
It’s more important and more relevant for children to know the story of Eleuterio Ramos and all JP2 Army Vatican sex maniac rapists  priests of the 20th century - than the ancient Bible stories irrelevant mythical figures like Jonah being swallowed by a whale, read here the Los Angeles Files

BOYCOTT Oratory of Saint Joseph! CANDLES to giant Zeus statues of St. Joseph and Brother Andre cannot protect children from CSC pedophiles

Wealth of Vatican Billions: its history, sources, and assets today worldwide. BOYCOTT the Vatican Museum and boycott ALL donations to the Vatican Catholic Church Reign of Terror  

READ our latest articles:
- Vatican Last Tsar Benedict XVI resigns as Vatican Pontiff of Vatican Catholic Church. It’s deceitful to say “Roman Pontiff” of “Roman Catholic Church” is here

Billion Dollar Christ & Apostles in Red now playing in Vatican. Evil impact of Papal Conclave: epidemic violence against women & perpetuity of poor countries

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